Brittney: If you find yourself second guessing your public speaking skills. Join us on today’s episode where we discuss how to boost your public speaking confidence.
Narrator: Welcome to the Presentation Mentor Podcast where we uncover the secret ingredients presenters used to woo their audiences and wow their listeners. Whether in a boardroom or a ballroom. You’ll learn to achieve presentation greatness!
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Here are your hosts, Scott and Brittney Schwertly.
Scott Schwertly: Hey guys! And welcome back to another episode of the Presentation Mentor podcast. I’m Scott!
Brittney: This is Brittney!
Scott: And today we’re gonna talk about three ways to boost your public speaking confidence. We’ve got a lot of great tips here to share with you and we’re excited to dive-in to today’s material.
Brittney: That’s right! I led the topic of confidence. I think public speaking is a fear for a lot of people and so you naturally begin to second guess yourself and start to think about all the external things rather than the importance of the message that you have to deliver.
Scott: Most definitely! I know its a one area that, I think the people have doubts or hesitations, it’s usually surrounding this whole topic of confidence.So…..
Brittney: That’s right! And, if you’re, you know, you’re confidence is lacking, your audience will figure that out and the important thing is your message, what you’re sharing in your presentation or in the, you know, talk that you’re giving and so you wanna make that the focus. And, and just remember that, you know, you can do this. So, here’s how we talk about how to boost your confidence.
Scott: Alright, so we’ve got three specific things that we’ve love to address with you guys today!
Number one, we’re gonna talk a little bit about just the importance of knowing yourself. And then, we’re gonna talk about, really the critical importance for things so simple as practice and then we’re gonna conclude today by talking about how you can engage yourself to get you moving on the right directions of, again in developing more confidence in this whole arena of public speaking.
So, let go and kick things off and we’re gonna talk about knowing yourself. So the best way to start are, I know we’re big fans of things like personality assessments and we talked about that all the time to Schwertly household.
Scott: Whether it’s the Myers Briggs’, the predictive index, the DISC. I know you’re a big fan of the, I always put you the name…
Brittney: The enneagram?
Scott: Yes! That’s correct.
Brittney: Yeah! I recently found the enneagram and have followed a few people on instagram about, you know, just the different types but Scott’s right. We,uhhmm, actually bonded over our love of personality assessments and so after, are we curtail? He actually told me that he created his own personality assessment and I was offended that he waited so long to tell me.
Brittney: So, I think it’s a genius. What you’ve done about creating a personality assessment to gauge your presentation skills because knowing yourself as a presenter really helps to highlight your strengths and weaknesses of a presenters, as a presenter. So you know how to engage your strengths but yet strengthen your weaknesses so tell us about BADGE and how that works.
Scott: Yeah! So BADGE is an assessment that the ETHOS3 team and I created about two years ago and its based on the basically the same theory that you would find with the DISC or Myers Briggs. And essentially measures a speaker or presenter in four major quadrants. We could probably do a whole podcast or episode on BADGE itself. But basically four quadrants, really at the end of the day, what you’re gonna find is what’s your strengths are as a presenter, what your weaknesses are as a presenter and audiences that are gonna love you and adore you and those audiences that will challenge you.
If you want to learn more about it and you actually want to take this assessment. Its absolutely free. You can do this at ethos3.com. Its E-T-H-O-S three, the number 3, dot com slash badge and it takes about ten to twelve minutes and within a few minutes, you’ll actually know which one of sixteen different presentation personas fits you best. And again, once you’re equip with that knowledge, you’ll get that nice dose of self awareness which is the self awareness you need to know yourself to start the journey in improving and enhancing your confidence when in front of a room.
Brittney: So, my question is and husband before, once you take the assessment and then your persona is, you know, ex (X), by strengthening your weaknesses, can you change personas within that.
Scott: Uhm. Generally you can but it takes a lot of work and I think there’s experts right there that say that it usually takes about five years to make a complete change. So let’s say, you’ve taken the Myers Briggs and you sort of an introvert or like an I-N-T-J or something like that. If you can just aspire to be an extrovert, that change can happen but it would be a radical change and again it would take five years of intentionality and being deliberate and a lot of hard work.
And so, yeah! Sure thing, its a yes, you can, change your profile but at the end of the day you are who you are and there’s a beauty in accepting that truth and that reality
Brittney: And owning it!
Scott: Yeah! And owning it and in maximizing it. So again, once you find that extra bit of awareness and know your persona you can then start building upon it. More so than strengthening your weaknesses or even mitigating your weaknesses.It’s really about knowing your strengths and just maximizing the heck out of it.
Brittney: What really helped me when I took the assessment was than just reading along in your book, “Your Presentation Persona” about how to again like you said maximize your strengths and you know, build up your weaknesses.
I’ve really felt that it gave great tips on presenting in general but also specifically for each different type of person. So, it’s a great resource to kind of go along with that BADGE assessment.
Scott: Oh! Definitely! I mean, it’s definitely a trustworthy guide to again help you really learn the details of yourself. And so, there’s a chapter dedicated to each persona and there, you can really kinda learn the ins and outs and even to dos and donts that you should embrace moving forward.
So, that is really the first place to start again. Will definitely carve out more time in future episode to go on the BADGE more in detailed but if you wanna get on that right track towards being a more confident speaker. Start by learning who you are. This podcast is dedicated to presentations and public speaking and communication so best place to start is take the BADGE assessment. Again, it only takes about ten to twelve minutes.
And, you’ll have a nice dose of self-awareness there.
Brittney: Yeah! Well, the next step I think in developing your confidence as a public speaker is to practice. And I know, for me, what helped is just practicing over and over and over. And you’ve told me before, I need to practice at least seven to eight times to really feel comfortable with the presentation.
Scott: Exactly! I mean the seven to eight times is kinda a minimum starting point. I know, a pastor that I had growing up he would practice every sermon thirty times before Sunday. That was his sort of go to number. You know, Jerry Final, Jerry Seinfield has admitted in his interview, when he was on the Tonight Shows for the very first time back in 1981. He practiced his five minute bit over two hundred times. So that may seem a little extreme but nonetheless, seven to eight should be your minimum starting to point.
Brittney: And, I think for me when I heard that I needed to practice, the thing that kind of, the first question that rang in my head was I don’t have time for that. Or you know, when am I gonna find time for this. But throughout the day, I find little pockets of time, driving in the car or my commute to work and I have friends who practice in the pick-up lines at school. And while their getting on their kids because we all know that line can be forever long. (Laughing)
Brittney: Just as little things that we find ourselves waiting througout the day. As a society, we sure hate to wait so why not fill those spaces up with this time to practice. And for me, what really is helpful is practicing out loud.
There are times when I am at my car where I am really just practicing out loud but if there are moments where you can get in front of a mirror and practice in front of a mirror, I know it sounds a lot like Stuart Smalley, but practicing in front of a mirror just to know, either to watch your mannerism, you know your facial expressions , things like that.Are you relaying your message your facial expression.
I know, we were shooting a video for you recently, and I have to remind you just smile (laughing with Scott). You know, you are so focused so much on what you had practiced and the words that you wanted to make sure you conveyed this great message and you did a great job.
But sometimes we forget just like simple things like smiling because it really, it really was like (laughing with Scott) certain there is a way mean a lot more . So, yeah. Practicing. But also remind, remind yourself even though it’s uncomfortable getting in front of the mirror and practice.
Scott: And that leads us to the whole idea of smiling and you’ve mentioned Stuart Smalley already and it’s a great transition into point number three here which is, not only you should know yourself by, you know, doing things like taking the BADGE assessment, obviously practicing not rocket science but it’s amazing how many people neglect it.
But the third item here that we gonna talk about it, is the importance of engaging yourself. And it’s kinda of two angles that we want to approach this from. We gonna some sort of preview them here for you.
So the two things that we gonna talk about with engaging yourself is one incantations and in practicing it. It’s sound a little fruity but it actually works and the second one is just engaging your body. So, I guess in just engaging yourself with the right word usage and then engaging yourself by what you choose to do with, your body movement.
So, let’s just start the first part which is incantations. I’m a huge fan of Tony Robbins, He’s been a part of my life for a long time. My dad has worked for Tony Robbins so I’ve been exposed to all his programs over the years, personal power, get the edge, all that stuff and I know Tony preaches on the power of incantations. And I know his famous thing is, you know “All l need is within me now!” All l need is within me now!”
And so I know when I’ve trained for Iron Man and marathons, sometimes I would just actually put his,his incantation in my head, in my headphones and as I run around my treadmill and as I tried to maintain a certain race phase. I am saying that same thing. “All l need is within me now!” All l need is within me now!”
Brittney: (Soft laugh)
And lo and behold, I am able, I was actually able to maintain that race phase and hold it and by having that self belief. And there is something powerful about that. So if you can get yourself in that mindset, maybe you’re about to, you know, give a big key note and you know behind the curtains and you’re about to take the center stage there. Do some incantations!
Scott: Like, you know, basically talk to yourself and make sure that you believe in what you’re doing. And basically, it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Brittney: There have been studies that have shown that when you speak positive words aloud, again, it’s really important to say these things aloud,that when you speak them aloud, you actually begin to believe them. But when you speak negative thing aloud, you start to believe them and like you said, self-fulfilling prophecy, they start to come true.
So, although like you said, it does sound a little bit cheesy but find what really works for you and you know, where are your, you know, where are your weak spots. Where do you feel like, you know, you are having trouble with your confidence. Whether it’s physically or the words that you say, you can’t remember the points. And just, you know, make sure that you say those things out loud and in a positive way.
Scott: Exactly! And to all the topics of Tony Robbins, I know he’s a big fan of using things like trampolines. He’s really into engaging his body and getting blood circulating and getting him sort of prime to get in front of a room. So he’s a big advocate of that, we’re huge advocates of that as well. You’ve got to get the blood flowing.
Brittney: I think he creates a huge amount of energy yourself. You know, no one wants to listen to speakers who physically appears like their bored with themselves. (Laughing) You know what I mean. I mean, we’ve all been there. If you’ve been to highschool or if you’ve been to college. I am so sure that you have a professor that looks like that their bored with themselves.
And so, I think when you’re delivering a talk or you’re delivering a presentation, just having the right amount of energy physically is important and your posture says a lot about you. And so, Tony Robbins, obviously, he’s with his mini-trampolines and we can’t all travel with mini-trampolines but you know, a few jumping jacks or ….
Scott: push-ups if you have too
Brittney: Even push-ups, you know, just doing a quick walk around the room and it’s helpful. And its kind a get you going. Get some of those nervous energy out as well.
Scott: Yeah! It’s just wakes you up and empowers you to be energetic and lively and, you know, give the audience, you know, the energy that they or their signed up for.
Brittney: Just think about how good you feel when you take a ten-minute walk outside. And you come back,you know, if you are tired before you often come back feeling a little bit better and a little less tired, and a little bit more awake. And I think that’s what important to bring to your presentation.
Scott: Definitely! Alright guys, well there you have it. Three ways to boost public speaking confidence. Number one, know yourself. Two, make sure you’re practicing then three, engage yourself. You can do this again through incantations or just activating your body. And you know, creating that movement or getting your heart rate up and so forth.
Brittney: What is the name of the website again where you can go to take BADGE if you’re interested just in case someone wants to write it down here at the end.
Scott: Yeah! Ethos3.com. That’s E-T-H-O-S, number three dot com slash badge (ethos3.com/badge).
Brittney: Sounds good! I might go take it again just to see if I can prove you wrong to see if I’ve change. Haha! Now, I’m kidding
Scott: Now, you have (laughing!)
Brittney: I’m not gonna do that. (Laughing) No, I think it is a great point. And if you’re struggling about confidence in yourself. Just remember, again, it’s really not about, I think when we struggle about confidence we tend to make it about ourselves and worry about what people are thinking about us. But put all your energy under what you’re are saying, and what you are delivering and in the message you want to bring. Remember that’s the most important thing, you are the delivery system. And so, just remember that people are there to listen on what you have to say which is the message. And, you’re just a vehicle to get them there.
Scott: Exactly! So that will do it for this episode. Looking forward to circle back up here on the days ahead on our next topic. Until then, we’ll talk to you guys soon.
Brittney: Yeah! Have a great one!
Narrator: Thanks for joining Scott and Brittney on another episode of The Presentation Mentor Podcast.
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